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Negator
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  1:28:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Proposed Stat bonuses for pre-subclass Fatebound (a compromise between my earlier figures and Pygmalion's suggested revision):


Stat:    BRA   GRA   MET   SIZ   WIT   TEN   DIS   AUR
Classing: 5     5     5     0     5    10    10    10
Training:15%   10%   10%    0%   10%   20%   20%   15%


Essentially, Fatebound never get any larger than what they were as avatars. They get good Tenacity and Discipline, but are fair all around.


Ich bin der Geist, der stets verneint.

Edited by - Negator on 03/01/2010 1:28:55 PM

KaVir
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Posted - 10/01/2010 :  10:52:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit KaVir's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Any thoughts about what the first subclass should be called?

Ideally something fairly generic.

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KaVir
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Posted - 10/01/2010 :  11:19:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit KaVir's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Having spoken to you online, I've used your suggestion of "Chosen".

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Pygmalion
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Posted - 10/01/2010 :  8:27:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit Pygmalion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Looks like a great start.

One thing that I have minor question about.

I think Chosen is a fine name for a newly classed and I have no problem with it. What I wanted to bring up though is whether or not the title suggests (as was an issue with faith) a higher power.

Basically my question is, whom were you chosen by?

I remember KaV saying way back he didn't particularly like the idea of gods having gods.

So I just wanted to throw that out there, see what you thought.

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KaVir
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Posted - 10/01/2010 :  9:57:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit KaVir's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chosen by "fate", I imagine. I think that's fine, it doesn't necessarily imply an intelligent higher being.

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Pygmalion
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Posted - 10/01/2010 :  10:03:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Pygmalion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok cool, then. *Thumbs up*

Edit: Just an idea but wouldn't "chosen by fate" mean "destined" so to speak. Could be an idea for branching subclasses or something "destined for so and so". Fateful would be another good adjective.


Edited by - Pygmalion on 10/01/2010 10:07:49 PM
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Negator
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Posted - 11/01/2010 :  03:26:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did indeed mean, "chosen by fate", but Pyg has started me thinking.

Actually, I think I was looking at this too narrowly... I was trying to come up with an adjective, but really, this could be a noun phrase, as in "Gwalchmai the Feral Pup".

So, how about "Man/Woman of Destiny"?

I am struggling a bit to find words to express someone who is still very much human but already an immortal.

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Xakarii
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Posted - 12/01/2010 :  9:55:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Xakarii's Homepage  Send Xakarii an AOL message  Reply with Quote
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The Moirae or Moerae (in Greek – the "apportioners", often called the The Fates), in Greek mythology, were the white-robed personifications of destiny (Roman equivalent: Parcae, euphemistically the "sparing ones", or Fata; also equivalent to the Germanic Norns). Their number became fixed at three.

The Greek word moira literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny. They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death (and beyond).

...In earlier times they were represented as only a few – perhaps only one – individual goddess. Homer's Iliad speaks generally of the Moera, who spins the thread of life for men at their birth.

...Despite their forbidding reputation, Moirae could be worshipped as goddesses. Brides in Athens offered them locks of hair and women swore by them. They may have originated as birth-goddesses and only later acquired their reputation as the agents of destiny.

* Clotho (English pronunciation: /, Greek ] – "spinner") spun the thread of life from her distaff onto her spindle. Her Roman equivalent was Nona, (the 'Ninth'), who was originally a goddess called upon in the ninth month of pregnancy.

* Lachesis (/, Greek] – "allotter" or drawer of lots) measured the thread of life allotted to each person with her measuring rod. Her Roman equivalent was Decima (the 'Tenth')
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* Atropos (Greek] – "inexorable" or "inevitable", literally "unturning",[7] sometimes called Aisa) was the cutter of the thread of life. She chose the manner of each person's death; and when their time was come, she cut their life-thread with "her abhorred shears". Her Roman equivalent was Morta ('Death').




They could be descendants of Moera- the personification of destiny? An age 100 would be a Child of Moera, Fate Spinner, etc. Subclasses could be based in part on which of the three- Clotho (Nona), Lachesis (Decima), or Atropos (Morta) you are descended.
This could be too specific but subclass names like Fatespinner, Allotter of Fate, or Inexorably Fated might sound interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirae

Edited by - Xakarii on 16/01/2010 10:35:42 PM
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Devoid
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Posted - 21/02/2011 :  3:31:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awsome... I really like this class idea.

I can see alot of room for fate based subclasses

"Chosen/Fated Protector" someone who is fated to be a protector of _blank_ and "Chosen/Fated Destroyer" because not all those chosen by fate are fated to be "Heros"
hopefully the chosen/fated par would be droped from the who list so it would be. Fatebound1 The Protector, and Fatebound2 The Distroyer.


also Defiant of Fate as someone who refuses to accept the role fate has assinged them.
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Negator
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Posted - 04/08/2011 :  06:39:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xakarii

[quote]The Moirae or Moerae (in Greek – the "apportioners", often called the The Fates), in Greek mythology, were the white-robed personifications of destiny (Roman equivalent: Parcae, euphemistically the "sparing ones", or Fata; also equivalent to the Germanic Norns). Their number became fixed at three.



Thanks for this, Xak... I am not sure about the Child of Clotho thing, but reminding me of the Fates/Norns is GOLD. This is how we can tie the Superhero/Mortal Hero thing into the overall concepts of GW2. What they have in common is that they have been touched by an aspect of Moera, propelling them on obsessional quests, or giving them great power through freak "accidents". A great seed of an idea.

Ich bin der Geist, der stets verneint.
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